in the broadest possible sense i just don't get it
Grunge for me. Hate the sound of the vocals, the guitar work is annoying and the lyrical themes just bore me. i mean it has all the ingredients of something i should like but i just don't.
nirvana, pearl jam, pixies, soundgarden... all highly regarded by my mates but i just don't like them. :/
in the broadest possible sense i just don't get it
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that's like me saying "rock music". be careful
I'd say Metal and Happy Hardcore,but I could find the odd track within both styles that I don't mind.
Which is shit as my university seems to be going through a dubstep phase right about now.
like a bottomless pit of irrelevance.
Dubstep
Drum N Bass
or Reggae
Anything else is fine.
But assumed some quick witted DiSer would accuse me of being a music racist given that they're all heavily associated with the black community
But I could never devote hours of my day to them.
I once lasted for a 7 hour Grooverider all nighter at Uni. Everyone else was smacked off their nuts and I made do with Newcy Broon. I struggled by 1am I gotta admit...
Funk
'Proper' punk
Dad rock
GABBA/Breakcore
nor do I want to, and I mean the modern stuff all warbled vocals devoid of any real soul
But they all sound terrifying.
there are lots i chose not to listen to that often, but i appreciate their place in music.
Metal is a sub-genre of Rock. Dance is everything from trip-hop to gabba
Particularly ska-punk.
tbc.
And dentistcore.
But reggae mainly.
"how much about dubstep do you know?", "how much reggae have you listened to?"
What about a little bit of 'how's your father?'
i love a lot of alt country stuff like bonnie prince billy and Damien Jurado. but i find that from one song to the next they can suddenly cross the line in to a bit too much country for my tastes and i gag and have to throw things at the stereo... garth brooks is an obvious no no.
fucking hate it.
Sure, there's a lot of very functional ravey stuff but as a genre it's producing some of the most exciting music full stop at the moment. Certainly doing far more sonically interesting things than the VAST majority of guitar music...
is GABBA?
its called 'gabber' and always has been ... its been my first love for nearly 17 years of my life
Not a style of music that ever really took off in this country.
Which is a shame, coz I used to (still do) love 'noise rock'
Hows the tinnitus?
I agree ska-punk is really annoying.
both fucking horrible.
I've tried more reggae than I care to remember. It does nothing for me. The closest I've come is that I don't mind I Can See Clearly Now too much. But that's about it.
post-math-drone-noise
which is odd because in the 90s I was the quintessential 'indie kid'. Nowadays I just see bands labelled as indie and I can't bear it. Generally it just means 'dull, male, armed with guitars' nowadays.
Also, although it's not technically a genre, rather a "period": Brit-Pop.
I just thought that all the britpop bands sucked balls. Even at the time. Sleeper, Kinickie, Menswear... whatever. They sucked so much balls.
head around is reggee and ska punk. So samey...
I thought gabba was pretty popular, judging by the Bang Face nights/weekenders I've been to.
Also- try Drumcorps if you haven't already. Metal/breakcore goodness. Looks incredible live too.
grime
I would have said reggae but then I heard some really amazing stuff and changed my mind.
psy-trance
I know people that live by that shit.
Very hypnotic.
Last ATP NBC my friend insisted on blasting out psy-trance in the early hours of the morning. I still haven't forgiven him for it.
and add the line 'most if not all 'electronic' music'
I'm well surprised the 1st one that came into my head hasn't been mentioned yet as it's quite a famously shit genre:
Nu-metal.
Hard-house
Horrorcore
Black metal/Death metal
Christian rap/rock
Stoner rock
Free jazz
When people write off, say, noise because they've heard a tiny bit of Merzbow and hated it, I'm always tempted to turn around and say "I don't like Blue Suede Shoes, so there's no fucking way I'm listening to any of that guitar shit again".
See the frequency and vehemence of the "BUT IT ISN'T MUSIC" argument on certain threads.
Mainly because it's solely consumed by gormless continentals and the mentally ill.
you mean sex?
But Taylor Swift has stolen my heart a bit, I don't mind when the wife listens to her, more of a crush thing than a music thing, but all the rest is shyte.
I dunno. I just know that I hate reggae.
And that I don't think Wolf Eyes is actually music :)
How d'you like THEM apples, hmm??
Good vocal trance is so uplifting. The lyrics are often very life-affirming.
I'm out now on KRANKY.
mainly because it's fucking terrible.
To think that you can know in advance that you don't like a piece of music because of a word...that's the fucking stupidest thing I've ever heard.
doesn't deserve ears.
The Modern, shite kind of RnB.
nickelback, staind, creed, three dors down, puddle of mudd, saliva
etc.
that was posted a month ago.
Not a single band anywhere near as good as the Misfits.
you didn't hear it in this thread. Perhaps you don't believe in rigid, totally inflexible genres. No-one with sense does. But using a term of convenience to group together acts that share similar qualities is far from stupid. And using those terms to guide (and not define or limit, necessarily) your discovery of acts new to you? Anything but stupid.
its like the latin american version of hip hop, really awful
=stupid. Genres can be used to group acts together only if you remember that no band can be defined by a genre, and that good music (and bad music) can be found in any genre, ANY genre at all, if you're open minded enough. If not, the problem doesn't lie with a bunch of artists who were grouped together against their will, it lies with the listener who isn't willing to step outside their comfort zone. I've observed this in this thread in statements dismissing all of "metal" or "electronic music in general." That is fucking ridiculous.
far too seriously in that case. Enjoyment and discovery of any media is always going to be guided by parameters formed by previous experience. It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise because no-one has an infinite amount of time or patience at their disposal. If the people answering in this thread are anything like me, they've been exposed to a fair bit of the genre (and they do exist; they exist as fluid concepts and not the rigidly teneted ones you seem to think they do) and just found very little they made them want to persevere with that genre (again, loose concept) when they could spend that time persevering other stuff.
Being close-minded is obviously not admirable. I don't think you're seeing a whole lot of close-mindedness in this thread. Your post is probably the most presumptious so far.
skiffle
neo-skiffle
nu-skiffle
post-skiffle
And I don't think anything about genres. I pretty much don't think about them, ever. If they exist as fluid concepts, how can they be dismissed entirely? That makes no sense to me. I have no idea where you'd get support that proves that you know what I think (which is impossible). I have no idea how seriously I'm supposed to take anything on this site, I go by what people actually say as opposed to trying to interpret how serious they are (which is again, impossible). Most of the dismissive comments in this thread didn't indicate a reasonable amount of experience w/r/t the genres dismissed.
Except not, obviously.
It's all music, whether you like it or not (I'm guessing not, amiright?). What you described sounds pretty damned decent in theory.
My flatmate in the second year at uni used to listen to gabber and I just couldn't get into it, it was just pure unadulterated shite.
Then again there's some genres where I never thought I'd get into them and they're now my favourites, like minimal techno and dubstep.
I think I can see why someone would say it's not music though. I remain to be wholly convinced myself, as it goes. It's more...atmospheres, than songs? I'm not great at describing that sort of stuff. Or anything, really.
I also really like the criticism 'it's not even music'. It has a childish brilliance about it. BUT IT'S GOT NO CHOONS!
(For the record: Merzbow scared the shit out of me when I was 16 and I refuse to go back, I own a Wolf Eyes album that I've listened to twice and I think I enjoyed but can't really be sure and can't realistically ever think of a time when I'd want to listen to it again, and Sunn O))) are one of the worst things I've ever listened to. It's not even music :))
Took a while, but was very much worth it.
Dismissal is entirely the wrong term to use and I've never suggested that it's OK to dismiss entire genres, only that it isn't stupid to (at least partially) base the paths you use to discover music on prior experience.
If there's no evidence for my last three sentences, there's no real evidence for much of your argument as, like me I suppose, you know very little about the actual listening habits of everyone here. And my point wasn't about how seriously people on here should be taken. It was about how severe your interpretation of a single, brief statement made in any arena should be.
You mean the Kranky deal fell through? Boo.
The whole not-music thing is inherently self-defeating - the people on here who say it listen to things the generation before would [have] consider[ed] not to be music, and likewise them and the generation before. You can't even hear the words, what are all these negro rhythms, and so on up the ages.
Merzbow I can take or leave (almost invariably leave, as it happens), but he's essentially as extreme as music can get, and there's a great deal even in the sphere of noise that's beautiful, heartbreaking, life-affirming, energetic, funny, or whatever. Music isn't just about "songs" - that's the least interesting part, to my mind - but when something encompasses soundscape, rhythm, sheer visceral effect AND throws in a decent melody, that's as good as listening gets (eg. Fog, Low, Tonstartssbandht, Kiss the Anus of a Black Cat, etc.), but if I had to lose one element of it, it'd probably be the last.
Also not good at describing this.
Wow, that's a shocking metaphor. I apologise.
Anyway. I'm simple and can't really be bothered with trying to find things in music that aren't immediately obvious to me. Maybe this means I'm missing stuff, BUT there has to be a point where I stop trying to find things and have to let them find me, almost. I don't have enough time to check out more 'noise' bands when there's stuff that I would be much more likely to like I need to listen to first. I can afford to write off the genre (by and large - I do remain a key follower of the 'EVERY band has a great, great song in them' motto) based on four or five bands, and believe that if something I truly like in this genre is out there, it'll find me. Like some sort of cosmic musical fairy story.
Also, there is no way on earth I'm listening to a band called Kiss The Anus Of A Black Cat.
Gabba.
But most of all, funky house.
In a Current 93, 6 Organs kind of way, only with more of an emphasis on song. Folky and doomy, basically. I hate the name, but such is life. They're Belgian, if that makes up for it.
Fair enough on your POV - I'm the complete opposite, myself; there's no room left on my iPod as I refuse to take off hundreds of albums I don't really like, as I really want to be able to appreciate them. As a system, it's really worked for me, but there's a hell of a lot of free jazz on there at the moment as a result.
As with all these things, I think I need to work my way into it. Start with some Jamie Cullum, maybe.
Why 'Cullum is gateway drug to free jazz hell' hasn't been a Daily Mail headline yet, I'll never know.
Anyway, I've enjoyed this. I'm off to force myself to listen to the Peter Tosh and Aids Wolf split LP.
grindcore
slimecore
Happy Hardcore
Ska-Punk
ska punk, I'm vomiting.
i am no dismissing the genre, i just can't get into it. i grew up with grunge being thrust down my neck by my mates. and i didn't like it.
punk in the purist sense
dad rock
happy hardcore
reggae
ska
r&b
soul
pop
funk
Probably some other stuff. And yes I'm obviously a massive racist.
you dont like music?
it's all on my profile. Are you trying to tell me that everything contains an element of one of these genres? That can't be true. Even if it was true an "element" isn't enough to say you "get" something.
The worst genre of all. That and dubstep just do absolutely fuck all for me.
"you can't write off entire genres, blah blah blah. you're all so narrow minded"
Not getting a genre because you haven't heard anything you like yet doesn't mean you're completely writing it off, it's not narrow minded at all. People like what they like, forcing yourself to be open minded despite not really getting something is much worse and this kind of behaviour deserves to be criticised.
...
soul just bores me
rungk
lonee
blooptic
there're plenty of genres of music I haven't delved into, I don't keep a list of them and if I had no interest in listening to them I wouldn't try to get into them. I have never in my life thought of genre as something impossible to get into or to be looked down on.
This thread stinks of misguided elitism to me, people who think they're above it but really don't have a clue. Some people genuinely might not like any pop music or any dance music but it's an attitude that strikes me as quite frankly baffling.
worse than scooter, it's that bad.
just tried to listen to some online, the bits i could get hold of were fucking woeful.
:D
...I really disliked certain genres like hard-metal and trance (which I found boringly, frustratingly repetitive) but I have heard some great things recently in both genres. I think this is the greatest thing about music - the more time you spend listening to something, the more you start appreciating it. Even if I will not end up buying everything by Coheed and Cambria and others, at least, I now appreciate them enough not to hate them.
ska punk and happy hardcore. ugh
Don't like Punk nor do I like any of those genres almost exclusively the focus of the MOBO awards - never been a big fan of Rap, R&B, Hip-Hop, or any other kind of 'Urban music' where a DJ takes prominence on stage.
The reason for that is those genres do not reflect what I like to think is the person I am and want to portray myself as - possibly middle class, university educated, professional with no attachments to 'ghetto culture' or whatever passes for that these days. It doesn't make me proud to say that because it almost certainly includes some hidden racism - a prejudice perhaps towards modern(ish) black culture as opposed to black people per se( I really like Blues for example and Soul and Motown). I guess these are the demons I must exercise.
Still when an R&B video can be identified by the fact that it has a mobile phone or car being shamelessly advertised as if to state that true worth is only obtained by owning such things, then I am not completely overcome by self-loathing.
Music can tell you a lot about yourself - your loyalty to genres, perhaps more.
Pop like, say, Girls Aloud, is vapid shite that makes me want to take my eyes out with a wrench.
but since seeing Gay For Johnny Depp at Club Academy I think even this cannot be excluded. It was a memorable experience, to say the least.
But surely with pop the fact that it's vapid isn't a reason to disregard it? It's massively popular with huge numbers of people, must have something going for it, even if it's just a catchy tune. Can't expect ALL music to be deep and meaningful, there has to be room for fun too!
what is it about them? i listened countless times to their albums and still don't understand the appeal
Fuck you!
All Imma say on the matter.
But they're not a genre.
Bands like Disturbed, Nickleback, Hinder, Seether, Three Days Grace, etc. Can't get into it, and don't really want to. It all sounds the same, and because that what is predominantly on the radio on top rock stations, the bands are running rock into the ground.
...and I'm not sure that's anything to be relieved about.
Donk is the real enemy
and that kind of hardcore that's interspersed with emo singing. I hated my friends, like 6 or 7 years ago, when they were all into that shit. 'Brutal' breakdowns with the most homoerotic singing. Lame!
fuck off.
What the fuck has socio-economic status, education level and employment got to do with music? Music transcends any of that bullshit and if you don't understand that, then you don't deserve to listen to music. You are an utter tool.
Socio-economic status has everything to do with consumption of media if we like it or not.
As has been said above - our previous experiences affect what we do and do not like. Certain musical experiences give us the required cultural capital to participate in and enjoy certain others. With this being the case, is it therefore entirely possible that our backgrounds and personalities, (weather this be with regards to gender, class, ethnicity nationality or a million other different factors) will similarly alter how we perceive music and media?
Those with different cultural capital will respond differently to different media stimulus.
But if I hear one more song ruined by a chirpy ska punk cover...